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Jason Ngu
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買了icap 快要20 年了。不知还有人比我更长气吗?

看来我的命运已經和icap 绑的紧紧了。。我除了買icap也買他買的股。可Hisbicus 这支股是我比他先買的哦!
我们可不要一起去Holland 啊。。!
Chohooi Lim
Salutica只是小投资,应把重点放在SAM、KGB、CAPITALA、PADINI、UTDPLT、APM、SURIA、AHEALTH,…
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Kevin Tam
Icap 股价也跌了蛮多。。市场与散户反应过大。。
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KenT
还会再跌,london还没丢够
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Kevin Tam
London这个时候丢多就不专业不懂股票了。。
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Paul Paul
希望伦敦仔出完票,再见不见
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Jason Ngu
68天前还有2.83, 转眼之间,已到了2.68..他的護国神山SAM 也跌的皮青脸腫了。。
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Jason Ngu
nta 3.7-share price2.68=1.02
1.02/3.7= discount 27%, 心动不心动。。?
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Paul Paul
attractive price must buy before regret
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Jason Ngu
它的强将股价:Sam, Padini, F&N, Ahealth,AAsia全部插水。。
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KH C
Sam qr release today. Looks good.
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Paul Paul
wah, why suddenly up 5 cents today
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Kevin Tam
这个Icap跌破2.80, 之前相信Icap老板TTB说很稳。。2.75以下可以加码,不过我手上已经蛮多票。
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Jason Ngu
up 5 cents 是technical rebound.
没用的,因为它的强将的股价大都份都插水. 现在Suria 也扒地.
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KH C
等AirAsia, QR应该不错
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Paul Paul
希望能跌多一些,可以收
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Jason Ngu
omg, Airasia QR 超级烂. Suria 也一样..
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KH C
Airasia 好多one off charges. Forex loss 不懂多少是unreliased. Aax 的forex loss 大部分是unreliased
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Kevin Tam
不肯定为何TTB看好波动性特别大的CapitalA。。
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KH C
因为便宜,飞机业务差不多一年有RM1b cash flow, 公司市值才3b。 业绩波动大因为飞机是租的,lease liability 是USD, 所以Forex 看起来影响很大,其实不用担心。赚的钱是够给租金,不像covid的时候
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Jason Ngu
icap还有大约RM96,000,000在手上。已投资了大约RM 三億。现金和總投资金额比例是25%

能抄低的现金只有大约25%.
在这风雨飘摇的全球经济,能顶的已经是很不错了。

老巴现金这么多,能投一丁点在icap吗。。?生要看地点和年代。只有勇敢的踏出一步,才有改变人生
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Jason Ngu
8 top holdings in term capital investment is:-
1) Kgb(investment status till now-profit )
2)Padini (profit)
3) Sam (Profit)
4) Capital A (loss)
5) United Plantation (profit)
6) F & N (loss)
7) Suria (profit)
8) Hibiscus (loss)
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Jason Ngu
icap sold Gtronic shares and making a loss
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Kevin Tam
KGB涨了2-3年,还non profit?Icap有买入F&N?
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Jason Ngu
Kgb is profit
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Paul Paul
icap got Gtronic meh?
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Jason Ngu
ya, Icap bought Globetronic @ around RM1.++(guess base on QR data 31 Aug 24) for 1,200,000 shares and sold somewhere between Sept 24 to 30 Nov 24@ RM0.9 to RM 0.50(guess)
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Jason Ngu
他抄低Gtronic抄在半山腰。。接着斩腰。。
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Paul Paul
damn...... why bought Gtronic....
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Jason Ngu
His icapital Newsletter did recommend this stock
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Cheryl LEE
Ttb cannot admit his mistake la.
He always use glove as an example to show how good he predicted the plunge of glove stock.
When people ask him during AGM regarding the lost about BioHdlg, salute, Parkson krono. He said this is small lost in total pro-folio. He cannot admit his mistake.

Bio lost 11m
Krono lost 11m

Worse than glove stock
Attend 1 time enough the AGM
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Kevin Tam
Krono n parkson are his mistake. He normally doesn't speculate, that explained why he didn't buy glove counters during 2020 even he known they would go up then would drop for 1-2 years.
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Paul Paul
no one can get 100% right on stock selection, if he can do 60% right pick ( which I think he did more than that) ,then the combination can grow healthy in long term.
Warren Buffett not 100% also, so is Munger.
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Cheryl LEE
No one can get 100% right. This is true.
The problem here is, when he is right, he keep repeating how good his analysis, how bad people invest in glove stock. 马后炮。
When people ask him the bad investment he did, he just said this is part of my small investment. He don’t want to explain more, he can’t face it.
He also said Icap fund return very good cause cannot invest in US share.
The fact is, look at all his global profolio, some even worse than FD Return.
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Kevin Tam
He could be 75% right for most of his investments , Buffect could perform better when partner Monger was around...
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Paul Paul
yeah, to me, it is making sense
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Jason Ngu
omg 今天大跌0.11 to RM 2.39..
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Paul Paul
more and more delicious
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Fool
Good la
Drop more
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Paul Paul
if you love this stock when it was RM 3.20+, then u should love it even more now
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Chow Seong
Cheryl Lee, mind to introduce any counter that 100% sure win?
Please....
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Jason Ngu
icap 有APM, 这支APM 股价可要飞上天了
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Jason Ngu
incur substantial loss on Bioalpha Holding Bhd
bought 49,057,600 shares at average cost of RM 0.266 per share, now only worth RM 0.03 per share.. almost all 打水漂..cry
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KenT
pain, almost 90% loss
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Jason Ngu
if you compare Icap with Axis Reit, Axis Reit share price performance is better than Icap.

They listed ipo almost at the same time in Years 2005, Icap ipo price RM 1.1 while Axis Reit ipo price RM 1.25

After almost 20 years, now icap share price is RM 2.55 (nta RM 3.58), while Axis Reit share price RM 3.88 (before bonus share 1:1), nta RM 3.30( before bonus nta) not counting Axis Reit consistently gave 4.78% DY

if you have opportunity to choose at Year 2005, which one will you choose..?
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Jason Ngu
Forgot to mention today Axis Reit reach the historical high at RM 3.90 (RM 1.95 after bonus price) but icap share price still lagging..look like Sam is the Ttb mostly hope counter with potential to overtake Axis Reit..
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KH C
I would buy apple, Tesla and Nvidia...
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Paul Paul
there is no IF in human life....
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Jason Ngu
Nta = 3.82 as at 23/7/25
it means if Icap liquidate and you so lucky and buy today 25/7/25) @ 2.61, you instantly get RM 1.21 and get 46%profit(3.82-2.61)/2.61
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Jason Ngu
Are you moved at this price RM 2.61?

if I was younger, definitely buy some at the price and wait to reap the fruit..
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Paul Paul
good way to value this stock
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Benny Khoo
Price over Book Value
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Jason Ngu
在2.57收了一些, 如有位富爸爸那就更好了
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Jason Ngu
Dividend per share RM 0.1354是很棒的. Dividend yield=0.1354/RM2.60 = 5.2%
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Jason Ngu
好 ? 那我就用你给的数据:

NAV = RM 3.84

股价 = RM 2.60


来套用 ICAP 的创新股息政策公式:


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1️⃣ 公式

股息 = Base Rate(1% NAV) + Top-up Rate(8% 折价)

Base Rate = 1% × NAV

Top-up Rate = 8% × (NAV − 股价)



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2️⃣ 带入数值

Base Rate = 1% × 3.84 = 0.0384 ≈ 3.84 sen

NAV − 股价 = 3.84 − 2.60 = 1.24

Top-up Rate = 8% × 1.24 = 0.0992 ≈ 9.92 sen


所以:

\text{年度股息 ≈ 3.84 sen + 9.92 sen = 13.76 sen/股}
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Jason Ngu
为何icap 加倉Padini 呢? 加了8,503,350 股. 我想抄作业也抄不得..
我觉得Padini 发展空间不大.
除非突破..
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Jason Ngu
Padini必需突变, 如果能改造成第二个Uniquo,那前景肯定是不错的護城河. 这样了电商服装的生意就威胁不能padini 了..
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Paul Paul
不用抄作业,买icap就好了
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Chohooi Lim
Icap没有加倉Padini,应是分到Padini的红股。
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Jason Ngu
@Chohooi
原来如此, thanks
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Sentan Tan
What’s a lousy performance
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Paul Paul
which lousy stock can give u 5% dividend?
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Paul Paul
london boy keep selling, London back yard is on fire
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Jason Ngu
看来London boy全新全意要退出icap shareholding了
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Johan Khaw
还有17+% 完全退的话 股价可能还有的跌
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Paul Paul
london boy is not welcome here, bye bye back to ur grave yard
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Chow Seong
London sell, we buy!!
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Paul Paul
let's boy London selling down first
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Paul Paul
look like got steam after the AGM
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Jason Ngu
AirAsia shares 变成AAX, icap是賺还是亏?
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KH C
现在是赚(aax share还没到手)
capA share + (0.386*aax share)=0.395+0.6755=rm1.07
高过之前
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Jason Ngu
Thanks KH C 解说。AAX 现在跑短程(国内)+长程。短程(国内)比较看好。个人經驗,长程坐位大窄,leg length大短,坐久了不舒服。。
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Jason Ngu
Bought some today @ RM 2.57, NAV 3.90, discount 33%
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馬拉ck
我記得我去過他的fund raising day
最低要投200k
一眨眼也是過了20多年了 哈哈
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Jason Ngu
padini - die
sam-die
krono-die
AirAsia -die
parkson-die

HIBISCUS -up a bit still can't cover cost
Kgb-only this one quite ok
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馬拉ck
his parkson is bonus from lion group...
his padini is buy from 15year ago
krono is die...really
sam is buy before the big uptrend
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Jason Ngu
可憐的Padini,不知被谁看上了。Icap 被拖后腿
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Jason Ngu
Topped up another lot today. Great price RM 2.45, give me around 7.8%dividend yield per annum

NTA = RM 4.31
share price= RM 2.45
applying dividend formula give you 7.8%dividend yield better than Epf dividend rate
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馬拉ck
Icap now change style. Give dividend already?
I tot he always don wan give
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Jason Ngu
Dividend formula : 4% + 8%(Net Asset value per share - Market price per share)
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Jason Ngu
London Boy 已是困獸之斗. Now is the best time to collect cheap chips from him
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Larry Lim
The 7.8% dividend is dependent on the discount between price and NAV maintaining until the next QR. Price is currently depressed because of CoL selling and NAV surged because the semicon/AI names (Dufu, KGB, SAM, Unisem) are near their 52-wk high. Once either (or both) of this change, the discount will narrow and DY will fall.
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Jason Ngu
3 July 26, DUFU & SAM still surging up even though US semi-con collapsed overnight..
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馬拉ck
not dufu n sam..is all stock
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Jason Ngu
City boy 的票不多了,只剩11.79%, dump 到七七八八时,我可要收些票做養老之用。
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馬拉ck
不多吗 还有16m….
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Jason Ngu
"分析师认为,Hibiscus Petroleum 英国Teal West油田将成为2027财年最重要的增长动力。目前该油田日产量约7500桶,预计今年8月完成首批约50万桶原油交付,为公司带来可观现金流。

同时,英国政府提供的税务优惠预计可为公司带来约1亿3100万美元(约5亿3300万令吉)的税务抵免,进一步提高项目回酬.

按每桶80美元油价计算,仅首批原油销售便可贡献约1亿1000万令吉现金流,现金赚幅高达69%。"

Icap 將受益於投资Hibiscus petroleum
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Jason Ngu
亏钱的公司,全球主权基金却疯狂买入

Unisem 股价一年涨了超过 100%,市盈率高达 116.7 倍,是同行 Inari 的两倍以上。但最新季度,公司净亏损 RM 1336万。

就在这时,挪威国家主权基金 Norges Bank 大手笔买入 8793万股,持股从 2.75% 飙升到 5.13%。大马退休基金 KWAP 也在 7月16日买入 5% 成为主要股东。

背后的大股东是中国华天科技,持有 Unisem 44% 股权。如今 Norges Bank、KWAP、EPF 三大机构同时持股。聪明钱都在买,你会跟吗?

#Unisem #KLSE #马来西亚股市 #Bursa #马股

好巧Icap 也持有Unisem, 看来是坐对风口了。。
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馬拉ck
這輪 icap肥 都買了mi unsiem
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Legendary Uncle Wong
Wah this thread since July 2023. Jason Ngu you are icap holder ?
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Jason Ngu
Uncle Wong, 我持Icap大约二十多年了。持股從Icap listing在2005年第一天算起
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Jason Ngu
按最新数据(RM4.32 NAV, RM2.43股价, 折价RM1.89)套用ICAP的股息公式——1% NAV + 8%折价——算出来是:
19.44仙 ÷ RM2.43 ≈ 8.0%

加仓机会怎么看,给你两面:
多头逻辑:
NAV年复合8.08%,选股能力持续兑现
折价43.75%已经是历史极端水平,统计上有均值回归的诱因
派息公式本身有自我修正效果——折价越宽,分红越多,某种程度上给了下档保护
空头逻辑:
这个折价结构持续了20年从未真正收窄,2017年CLIM还发起过董事改选挑战都没能改变治理结构
CLIM作为最专业的折价套利玩家都在退出而非加码,这是个有分量的负面数据点
没有清晰的催化剂(清算/转开放式/回购)能强制折价收窄,纯靠"等市场想通"风险很高
持仓层面,这才是我觉得你更该关注的:
科技/半导体设备类合计占比高达约49%——Kelington(20.43%,单一持仓集中度惊人)、SAM Engineering(14.69%)、MI Technovation(4.24%)、Unisem(3.12%)、Dufu(2.52%)、Edelteq(合计2.71%)
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Jason Ngu
用最新数据(NAV RM4.32,市价RM2.43,折价RM1.89)套用ICAP的股息公式:
1% × NAV + 8% × 折价额
1% × 4.32 = 0.0432
8% × 1.89 = 0.1512
合计 = 0.1944 RM = 19.44仙
殖利率 = 19.44 ÷ 243 = 8.00%

有8% dividend yield, 你还不心动?☺️
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Legendary Uncle Wong
I see. What is the return or CAGR of the fund from inception till now
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Jason Ngu
ICAP资产净值(RM)
自成立日起
ICAP

年复合回酬率 CAGR 8.08%
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KH C
多过10% 应该是因为股价上,他不可以买超过10%
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KH C
londo 已经卖出一半,多一两年就会卖完
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Legendary Uncle Wong
Okay Jason Ngu, the CAGR of the share price is RM1 till present? Are there any dividends? Their shareholdings are contained in the yearly annual report?
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Jason Ngu
Icap 的單一股东持股不可超过20%
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Jason Ngu
@Legendary, for Icap share price from listing till now CAGR is 5.42%. That is why there is a discount to its NAV
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Jason Ngu
I guess London Boy wants to exit icap shareholding. Today top up another few lots
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