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Leong Mun shing
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NationGate(新光)建设光子设施,对其营业额的长期提升有极其显著的帮助。 该技术在AI和数据中心产业链中处于绝对的核心地位,因其对制造工艺和封装有着极高的要求,导致马来西亚绝大多数传统代工厂目前无法企及。有关该技术的优势和行业壁垒,具体分析如下:

一、 会帮助提升营业额吗?答案是肯定的,且属于“高利润、高复合增长”的长期推动力。拉动高价值订单: 传统的电子代工(EMS)净利润率普遍只有 5% 左右。而光子学业务(如 800G 和 1.6T 光模块、光引擎封装)属于高壁垒、高价值量的产品。深度绑定 AI 巨头供应链: AI 算力中心除了需要 Nvidia 的 GPU 服务器外,最核心的瓶颈就在于“数据传输速度”。NationGate 通过与 POET Technologies 等顶尖光电芯片设计公司合作,直接切入了下一代 AI 集群和超大规模数据中心的刚需供应链。这一高技术附加值的业务,将成为其继 AI 服务器组装(Data Computing)之后的又一业绩火车头。

二、 这个技术这么厉害?是的,它解决了目前 AI 和数据中心最大的痛点——“算力够快,但铜线传输太慢”。打破物理极限(光进铜退): 传统的电子设备依赖铜导线传输信号,但在 AI 所需的超高速率(如 800G、1.6T)下,铜线不仅发热严重,信号损耗也极大。光子技术通过光学互连(Optical Interconnect),改用“光信号”在芯片和服务器之间传数据,速度提升数倍,功耗和延迟却大幅降低。高难度的光电协同封装(CPO/硅光技术): 厉害之处不在于芯片本身,而是在于封装和组装(Advanced Packaging)。要把极其微小的激光器、光电探测器和传统的电子芯片(硅片)精准对齐,并集成在同一个微小的模块或芯片上(误差通常在纳米级),这需要极其昂贵且精密的实验室设备与自动化智能产线。

三、 马来西亚别的代工做不到嘛?目前绝大多数大马 EMS 厂确实做不到,NationGate 具备显著的“先发优势”(First-mover Advantage)。马来西亚作为全球半导体后段封测(OSAT)和电子制造(EMS)重镇,代工厂通常分为两类,但它们在光子学领域各存在不同的技术或定位壁垒:传统 EMS 大厂(如 ATA IMS、VS Industry 等):主要以消费电子、家用电器或传统工业控制板的组装(SMT)为主。这类工厂缺乏高精密光学元件的处理能力、缺乏无尘室环境,且没有高频光学测试设备的投资和技术积累。具备半导体封测能力的同行(如 Inari Amertron、Globetronics 等):Globetronics 也进入了光子领域(同样与 POET 合作),但它们偏向更前段的半导体晶圆级/芯片级封装。NationGate 的独特优势在于,它不仅能做高精密的光模块(Transceiver)和光引擎组装,它本身还拥有庞大的 AI 服务器 OEM 制造能力。这种“服务器 + 光模块”的垂直整合能力,能够提供一站式(One-Stop)AI 数据中心解决方案,这是大马其他单一封测厂或传统 EMS 厂难以复制的体系。

要提前买他的未来,就见仁见智。
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Leong Mun shing
新设施预计将于 2026年第三季度 投入运营
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cheng
the recent price actions caught my attention and was wondering what is brewing. I think there should be some further development to its last acquisition related to Valeo; a new direction to its operating segment probably. from a pure server assembly to automotive/EE; adding plastic injection moulding and pcb assembly capacity. If it works well, it could serve other customers too.
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kim mui lee
Go go nationgate
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cheng
observing. will be strong if it the bull (insiders) pushes it above 0.91. margin recovery play in the making and requires confirmation from qr.
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cheng
strong
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Lilly Ang
Q4业绩应该会反映出光子设施所产生的盈利能力
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cheng
Data comm and automotive segments showing good numbers from the last qr. For automotive, One qtr revenue in Q1FY26 is equivalent to full year revenue for FY24 and FY25. A successful testing and qualification for Poet's optical engines incorporating custom designed FAU will not only contribute to Natgate's revenue but also open up opportunity for other customers in the photonics/optical industry.
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cheng
joined as a small shareholder at 0.865
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cheng
Thanks to Mr Market for 0.85 tickets :)
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cheng
temasek booster soon?
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cheng
Boss followed by BODs buying. Datacom (optical/photonics) + automotive segment to be the main growth driver.
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Leong Mun shing
Erm.. I just see it performance. Hope those fund manager can see it too. I seen it prepare for transition from EMS into high tech value position such as photonics. I buying it future, hope it won’t disappointed me. Being apprentice there before, their management very good in position and planning, and always one step before. Hope current management team still the same.
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cheng
ooh, must be a good apprenticeship experience for you. indeed the optical transceiver/photonics technology progress in natgate is impressive. Natgate has the capacity to support their customer's expansion :) datacom and automotive will be the ones to watch for.
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Leong Mun shing
But even it good. It’s no help because this is share market. People will just seen the cash out opportunity rather then see the company future especially bursa.
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cheng
Just chillax and let it unfold slowly :)
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cheng
extracted from market research reports - Optical transceiver is on a trajectory that roughly doubles or more across the 2026 to 2036 period, with datacom - and the AI-network segment within it - the fastest-growing pool of demand; four structural shifts reshaping the market. The first is the migration from electro-absorption modulated lasers toward silicon photonics, which the report projects rising from roughly a quarter of datacom shipments toward two-thirds, commanding an even larger share of revenue. The second is the progression up the speed ladder, from 800G through 1.6T toward 3.2T. The third is the gradual emergence of co-packaged optics, integrating optical engines directly onto switch silicon to overcome the power and density limits of pluggable modules. The fourth is the diversification of demand beyond communications into access networks, wireless, automotive LiDAR, optical computing, and quantum applications. https://www.researchandmarkets.com/reports/6244194/the-global-optical-transceiver-market?utm_source=GNE&utm_medium=PressRelease&utm_code=7fnlzz&utm_campaign=2284500+-+Optical+Transceiver+Market+Set+to+Double+as+AI+Data+Centers+Drive+Unprecedented+Demand+for+800G+and+1.6T+Modules&utm_exec=clshmsai
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Leong Mun shing
See whether investor is looking for short term cash out or future orders, future earnings and future market position. Projected earnings of 3 years down the line rather than current profit. This is what I am seeing from now.
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cheng
It will be reflected accordingly when Natgate's optical transceiver/photonic customers ramp up their production :)
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Leong Mun shing
Yup Q3 will know the result. This coming August quarter report.
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cheng
Natgate's optical transceiver MNC customers (Canada and US) are experiencing all time high demand due to hyperscale AI DCs.
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cheng
some corporate updates from POET (Canada) which should translate to higher activities at Natgate - The photonics specialist is pressing ahead with its plan to begin volume manufacturing of optical engines for AI data centres in the second half of 2026. By the end of 2027, management expects to hit a monthly run-rate of one million units. Those chips are designed for 800G and 1.6T transceivers, the backbone of next-generation AI infrastructure. More than ten active customer engagements are already on the books, with combined annual revenue potential north of $100 million — including early orders for 800G engines and a tie-up with Lumilens.
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cheng
Looks like insiders/funds/insti making a move on Natgate.
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Rahim Razak
ada apa good news hr ini natgate big volume masuk
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cheng
Belum breakout. Strong hands dok collect lagi. Relax je.
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Vuiton Lim
Director Lee is one of the strong hands
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cheng
perhaps driven by the silicon photonics aka datacom segment as Natgate's MNC customers are making headlines in the industry recently :)
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cheng
12th floor incoming
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Leong Mun shing
Hope the optical transceiver/photonic are in good track, then august time can see some result on the report.
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cheng
it will not be a one-off performance spike for the datacom segment, leong. Their customers are seeing high demand which means more volume for Natgate; expansion if you will. You can see Nvidia pumping money into optics/silicon photonics companies :)
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cheng
thanks to mr. market for the quotes at 885
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fei fun
Tech sector is recovering
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Leong Mun shing
There will be few critical thing. First to see is this coming quarter will the optical business turn into mass production and how much it’s bring back the revenue. Lastly, who’s the key customer in behind. Then I believe market will re-evaluate NG value.
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cheng
Optical transceiver/silicon photonics high demand and Natgate is the primary beneficiary as their customers are ramping up/seeing high demand; multifold if you will.
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cheng
Natgate cannot announce who the key customers are due to non disclosure agreement. It's definitely not just POET :)
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cheng
Acquisition of Valeo for automotive segment means new customer acquisition and top tier OEM for Volkswagen, BMW, Mercedes
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Admiral Adama
Just in case if u guys didnt know, optical modules were natgate's primary source of income long before they became Nvidia's vendor...
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cheng
optical transceiver modules; integrating dsp with silicon photonics technology and the following applications driving the spike/demand for the optical transceiver module - Energy-efficient 1.6T data center networks, GPU/accelerator interconnects in AI clusters, Spine and aggregation switch links in data centers, 2×800G DR4 and 1.6T DR8 Ethernet connectivity
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cheng
and Nvidia pumping money into the optical transceiver module suppliers, Adama :)
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Admiral Adama
Yup, I am aware of that. I have been following optical modules sector closely since 2024 haha...
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Admiral Adama
btw, their key customer is cohr...
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cheng
there's another big one, adama :)
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fei fun
Any big announcement coming?
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Admiral Adama
not sure how big will be since datacom segment includes nvidia server...

cohr used to contribute over 90% of revenue. can other customer do the same?
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cheng
Optical transceiver modules manufacturer seeing revenue/demand increasing by 3 fold comparing to fiscal 2025; stretching into 2027/2028.
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Rahim Razak
harap naik balik ni break 92sen
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cheng
kalau day trade susah sikit sebab regional tech correction belum habis lagi. Peluang untuk join Natgate walaupun sentiment lembap sikit
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cheng
need to stay at 9th floor before going higher to 12th floor.
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cheng
lets see whether you can close at 9th floor today. to clear the blockade at 0.92
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cheng
congrats everyone :) slowly but surely
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cheng
expecting announcement?
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Fibo莫问
Nice closing.... 1.382=1.07, 1.618=1.130, actually from rebound should b 0.236=1.130, now only come to this price
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cheng
It can go way higher driven by the datacom segment; optical transceivers if you will. Vice versa, downside risk is equally high if datacom segment fails to take off due to delays in ramp-up or qualification/testing.
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casey hee
谢谢 Fibo 为 0270 分析, 我有307
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Leong Mun shing
WHY NG
It's not that other companies cannot do it, but only a limited number of manufacturers currently meet POET's technical and production requirements. NationGate happens to be one of them.
*1. POET was not looking for just another contract manufacturer*
POET is not simply outsourcing production. Instead, it is partnering with a company that can jointly develop and manufacture its optical products at scale.
NationGate's responsibilities include:
-Optical Engine Assembly
-Fiber Attach Unit (FAU) assembly
-Precision optical alignment
-Optical testing
-Final AI optical module integration and manufacturing
These processes require specialized expertise and cannot be performed by a typical EMS manufacturer.
*2. NationGate already has experience in AI server manufacturing*
NationGate's competitive advantage goes beyond PCB assembly.
The company already has capabilities in:
-NVIDIA AI server manufacturing
-GPU server assembly
-High-end electronics manufacturing
-Cleanroom production
-High-precision SMT
-Burn-in testing
-Advanced manufacturing processes related to optical modules
POET's management has also highlighted Malaysia's mature semiconductor ecosystem and skilled workforce as key reasons for selecting the country for production expansion.
*3. Malaysia is building a complete photonics ecosystem*
POET's manufacturing strategy in Malaysia currently looks like this:
SilTerra → Wafer fabrication
Globetronics → Optical Engine manufacturing
NationGate → Final Optical Module Assembly
This means NationGate is not working alone. It is part of a larger Malaysian photonics supply chain that POET is developing.
POET itself refers to this as its Malaysia-centered ecosystem.
*4. Why not choose another EMS company*
Technically, POET could have partnered with other manufacturers such as:
-VS Industry
-UWC
-Pentamaster
-Jabil
-Flex
-Venture
However, AI optical modules are very different from ordinary electronic products.
Manufacturing them requires expertise in:
-Micron-level optical alignment
-Optical coupling
-Laser packaging
-Fiber attachment
-Optical testing
-High-yield precision manufacturing
Even large EMS companies may not possess all of these capabilities, and building them could take years.
*5. NationGate also offers another important advantage*
NationGate already serves customers in the AI industry.
One sentence from POET's announcement is particularly noteworthy:
"Manufactured specifically for one of POET's key customers."
This suggests that POET already has a customer for these products, while NationGate will be responsible for manufacturing them.
POET also indicated that the products are intended for hyperscale data center applications.
Although the customer has not been publicly identified, market speculation points to a major AI or cloud computing company. However, there has been no official confirmation, so it should not be assumed to be NVIDIA, Microsoft, or any other specific company.
*6. Why is this important for NationGate?*
If POET successfully commercializes its:
-800G optical modules
-1.6T optical modules
-Future 3.2T optical modules
and enters high-volume production,
NationGate will not earn revenue from designing the optical chips themselves.
Instead, it will generate manufacturing revenue from:
-Optical module assembly
-FAU assembly
-Optical testing
-Final system integration
As demand for AI optical modules increases, NationGate's manufacturing business could also expand accordingly.
*7.Conclusion*
Many investors ask:
"If POET does not manufacture its own products, why choose NationGate?"
The answer is becoming increasingly clear.
POET's core strength lies in its optical technology platform and product design, not in operating manufacturing facilities.
Its business model is similar to NVIDIA designing chips while TSMC manufactures them. POET focuses on innovation and intellectual property, while trusted manufacturing partners such as Globetronics and NationGate handle production.
If POET's 800G and 1.6T products achieve large-scale commercial adoption, NationGate could evolve from being primarily an AI server manufacturer into an important participant in the AI optical module supply chain.
This is why investors are paying close attention to the partnership.
Ultimately, however, the real catalyst will not be the partnership announcement itself, but whether it leads to mass production orders, purchase orders (POs), and meaningful revenue growth in the future.
*8.Disclaimer*
NO WARRANTY, NO GUARANTEE, JUST A CUT AND PASTE
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cheng
Fingers crossed on POET's optical interposer qualification & testing currently on-going at Natgate. A successful qual & testing will be followed suit by ramp-up/mass production as POET has confirmed purchase orders tied to Marvell/Celestial AI :) POET is still at the infant stage now comparing to the other two leading US MNC customers of Natgate.
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fei fun
Great, now price still not yet reflect actual
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cheng
acquisition of valeo opens up new opportunity to onboard new customers too. just manage it well; upside and downside too.
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cheng
towards 12th floor
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cheng
thanks to mr. market. rebalanced some at 1.00 :)
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丁蟹1984
烂门最不缺的就是讲故事,炒点从来没停过。狂风过后又有一堆白骨。
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cheng
will you complete the move to 12th floor today?
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fei fun
Any good news to announce today?
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Rahim Razak
LU news today maybe
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黄耀新
苏州过后无艇搭? tp 1.27
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jayson K
don't out new pls later all sell on new
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cheng
No idea, fei fun. Just follow your own plans and managed it well.
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cheng
Strong :) thank you Mr Market for the quotes.
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Rahim Razak
ada good news apa Natgate naik tinggi seminggu ni
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Ezny 293
lpas Dividen
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cheng
Optimistic with datacom and automotive segment probably. Expansion and new customers prospect probably.
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Admiral Adama
news leaked obviously. back to rm 3 in no time...
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cheng
RM3 will be a challenge and irrational, Adama. Well, unless M&A news
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Jonz Wikk
good to see it moving in bullish mode
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Tiong C.B.
ok, 大妈说 Rm3, 上车。。。
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Daniel Tan
New Targeted price RM3.500
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Tiong C.B.
4点有一波。。。。。。
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Kam Hong Yeap
Not RM100.00?
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cheng
congrats everyone :) hope you guys continue to earn more.
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Ming Ooi
放量上涨必回跌,三块是明年的价格吧
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Aubergine Phang
So tmr will retreat first and then bounce back
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cheng
yesterday's volume was promising. probably funds/insti and insiders :) will you touch the 12th floor today?
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Rahim Razak
gilir2 turun naik. natgate retrace hr ni, tanco pula naik
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Rahim Razak
moga petang ni naik balik. harap mrk dah selesai selling, buying back semula
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Jayden_Fong
Bought @ .905 Hold
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丁蟹1984
预料之内,庄家正常炒作。又套一部分人。
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黄耀新
卖了1.13,有点不舍得, 毕竟是炒了几天, 下调也是意料中的。
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黄耀新
那天去医院之前下单卖出0.92,看医生回来0.92被成交了, 安慰自己有赚就好, 今天也一样有赚就好。
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cheng
12th floor it is :)
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