When you compare the ROE for Advance with those of New Toyo and Tien Wah Press, you will see that the ROE for all has been declining since 2011. It is a tough sector. New Toyo seems to deliver better returns. Looking at Tien Wah is not realistic as this is controlled by New Toyo. Refer to https://www.i4value.asia/2022/03/has-new-toyo-move-beyond-being-cigar.html#more