Tiong C.B.'s comment on GENERGY. All Comments

Tiong C.B.
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有点包装成 green energy 的股。但是大部分还是跟油粽行业挂勾。投行PE12是用2024也的业绩表现来算的。2025 两个季度的盈利只有区区的7.8m.. (2024年全年有39m)
cheng
lets see how day1 IPO listing looks like. curious.
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Tiong C.B.
cheng.. already enter? since u say it is good company compare with bmgreen
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cheng
waiting for opportunity to trade some, tiong. looking at lower nineties.
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Admiral Adama
这些从母公司分拆出来的子公司的估值最终将会向母公司慢慢靠近哈哈。。。
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Tiong C.B.
油粽服务业没什么看头。可以参考 PMI. Margin 很低一下. Based on 3Q profit. 以一块钱的价钱,FPE for 2025WY around 23
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cheng
one of the key distinction in this company is the aspiration to switch from epcc based to boo/boot model; from non-recurring to recurring based revenue. current orderbook on hands of slightly over 200 mil is still epcc based and probably not boo/boot yet.
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Jordan Lim
Kanasai 今年第60家IPO 也跌破IPO 发售价! 以后还有谁敢去申请IPO
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Admiral Adama
fair value pe 5-10 XD
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cheng
PE10 or lower will be really attractive, adama. hehe. the rest of the main market renewable energy counters are way higher. the challenge for this counter is to secure the first boo/boot contract from its major customers - palm oil mills taikors; sime, wilmar, fgv, etc.
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Admiral Adama
be patient then...
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cheng
genergy's clients have targets to meet by 2030 and 2050 :) boo/boot is the way to meet those targets.
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Tiong C.B.
2030 and 2050 target. geng geng
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cheng
yup. unless the net zero / ghg policies change. genergy's solutions is applicable to scope 1 emissions, not for scope 2 and 3. taikor sime wants to increase biogas plants to more than 40 by 2030 from the current baseline of ~20 now. different customers different targets.
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Tiong C.B.
sound like wawasan 2020?...
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cheng
Lol, taikor sime publish it in their official website under renewable energy tab - https://www.sdguthrie.com/who-we-are/what-we-do
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cheng
We are investing in renewable energy through solar and biogas projects on our land. Our goal is to drive meaningful change for the planet and its people.
Biogas Plants and Methane Capture
We have successfully operationalised 19 methane-capturing biogas plants across the Group as of 2024. These facilities align with our sustainability goals and contribute to long-term profitability. We plan to increase our biogas plants to 46 mills by 2030.
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cheng
taikor wilmar, international taikor is more aggressive. Lol, no pun intended. You can find it at wilmar's website, under media release, press release dated 27 Mar - For the energy and industry sector, Wilmar has committed to reducing absolute Scope 1
and 2 GHG emissions by 50.4% by 2032 from a 2022 base year.* In addition, the Group will reduce absolute Scope 3 GHG emissions—covering purchased goods and services, fuel- and energy-related activities, upstream transportation and distribution, and the processing of sold products—by 30% within the same timeframe.* In the long term, Wilmar will continue to implement these reductions, aiming to achieve a 90% absolute reduction in Scope 1 and 2 emissions by 2050, as well as a 90% absolute reduction in Scope 3 emissions—covering all the aforementioned categories along with downstream transportation and distribution.
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cheng
thanks to mr. market for lower nineties quotes.
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Admiral Adama
aiyo bro bursa ipo is very simple punya...no need to read so many stuffs one....

There is only one consideration: does it look sexy or boring at 1st glance? If sexy then buy else dont even think about it haha...
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cheng
ipo leh... scared ooh... trade sikit2 at discounted ipo price still ok. parent company coating business slowing down. have to focus more on renewable energy.
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cheng
how to know sexy or boring? can't keep up with you, adama. One moment tiger, another moment sexy.
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Admiral Adama
if i yawn before i can even finish reading the 1st published article about company then it is boring in my definition haha...
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Tiong C.B.
Adama already hint.. mother company PE5... what make u think son should more sexy?
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Admiral Adama
if u do not feel love at 1st sight or so called初恋的感觉 then stay away haha...
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cheng
haha. i read the prospectus thanks to tiong. would have ignored it if I didnt read the prospectus.
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馬拉ck
買這支...我不會去買它老母更好? 更低估 哈哈
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Admiral Adama
seriously, why would anyone think it is a good buy after the mother company listed its subsidiary at pe15 while the mother itself traded at pe5 only?
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cheng
not sure about the rest. but this is my 1st IPO trade on day 1 listing. I have never traded IPO stocks on day 1 listing prior to this. maybe will ended up paying tuition fees :)
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cheng
as for parent company versus listed subsidiary, those wanted exposure to O&G will pick wasco. those wanted renewable energy, will pick genergy. just like gent vs genm, ytl vs ytlpower, sime vs simeprop. i think up to individual preference?
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Tiong C.B.
PE12.88.. price 880... hint?
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馬拉ck
Soon pe 8.88 amen
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Jordan Lim
rubbish company again lower ipo price
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cheng
not exactly the same effect on biodiesel versus the biogas plants, tiong. as long as there is cpo production / mills running, there will be waste generated. the waste generated will be used for the biogas plants to produce methane to generate heat/electricity. biodiesel uses the cpo itself.
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cheng
demand for biogas plants from palm oil mills will drop (1) if net zero / ghg policies change or no longer the priority (2) no more cpo production as no more waste produced.
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馬拉ck
almost same business like bmgreen
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Tiong C.B.
cheng.. lets see ba. cant explain much
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cheng
yes, ck. bmgreen has more segment biogas, waste treatment and recently solar. I saw one analyst report on bmgreen that the orderbook target is 250mil for FY26 and bmgreen has just secured 90mil solar epcc contract. genergy has epcc orderbook of more than 200 mil. just my personal preference - Genergy is more specialized, niche, slightly better margins; limited margins data for genergy since its just day1 IPO. Genergy wanted to move from epcc to boo/boot model - something like highway concession model, build and then collect toll for certain number of years; constant recurring revenue.
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Tiong C.B.
Wasco Bhd的 offer for sales拿到的钱会分到持有wasco的 散户吗?
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馬拉ck
Can’t use fundamental to buy ipo. Will lose till pant drop. What investor want eh, they do pretty data for u.
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cheng
wont be distributed if it is not announced, tiong. most likely will go into wasco's working capital. you will see the movement in cash balance (up) due to the offer for sale. and future qr, wasco will report lower profit attributable to owners and the NCI will increase bcos genergy is now listed.
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