Pilindo Zakaria's comment on ESCERAM. All Comments

Pilindo Zakaria
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waiting for QR next week. if the report is bad, i would consider to sell half of my share. That is life, very tough.
cheng
another low margins results in the upcoming report will be a sign of structural problem within the building materials segment.
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Pilindo Zakaria
so far im okay with the result. low margin but there is consistency on the revenue and profit. with the price rm0.11, im okay with that. there is small improvement on the balance sheet and cash flow. their receivable increased about 20%.
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sws lss
The current performance is worst than guarantee income in first 18 months after tookover. This CEO is not performing at all.
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cheng
I have to agree with you, sws
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Pilindo Zakaria
sws & cheng, i dont think the QR is worst than before. look at manufacturing segment from 2017-2019 (not covid), their revenue maintain at 8mil. same thing happen now. their profit was around 500k. same thing happen now.

but when they taken over cement company, their revenue jump to 110mil. but low margin building material. dont expect too much from this kind of business after diesel price surge almost 50% and minimum wage increase 1700. the business is still running with profit every quarter.
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Pilindo Zakaria
i dont understand people invest in Sapura energy with debt and asset ratio is 1:1. with every quarter loss 400mil.

esceram so far doest show loss in building material segment. the manufacturing profit is improving. just now the QR shows 400k profit from manufacturing.
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cheng
ooh, the report is out. will have a look at it
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Eddy Khoo
was it worth it to acquire the building material company for 83 millions? only return around 4 millions profits per year. it would take 21 years to recoup back the investment
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cheng
Yes and No in my personal opinion, Eddy. Yes - The acquisition came with a profit guarantee of 11M for 2 consecutive years; avg 5.5M per year which is approx pe15 and new shares issued at 0.32 per share. Market price was below 0.25 during profit guarantee period. Mcement and Humeind PE back then was above 20. No - If a new acquisition announced with 4M yearly profit at 83M acquisition price which is approx pe21; it's a costly acquisition as mcement and Humeind PE are below 15 now.
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William Yang
Why would they even want to acquire a cement company at a first place and not others? Maybe should change CEO
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Eddy Khoo
William, if not mistaken one of the directors is the owner of that cement company and that is how it got connected and proposed.
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William Yang
Ok looks like, this result means nothing. Onto is next quarter and see how it goes
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